When Life Gives You Lemons, Find A Church With Denny Bohs
When you suddenly lose your job, and you can't find one for months on end, what do you do? Find a church! Chad Burmeister's guest today is Denny Bohs, Servant Leader and Freelance Project Manager based in Pennsylvania. Denny opens up with Chad about how he had to rely on his family, friends, and church community to survive when he lost his job. Coming out of that situation, Denny finally had the business he always wanted to own. So when you're climbing a steep mountain, and you need help, knock on the door of your church. Come on in and join this inspiring conversation!
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When Life Gives You Lemons, Find A Church With Denny Bohs
I've got with me a guest from Pennsylvania, just outside of Philadelphia, Denny Bohs. The website is Bohs.us. Denny's been doing consulting for the last several years. I was able to reach out to him and convince him to come on the show and share some of his stories because from time to time, we all need to hear about each other's stories so that we can continue to be awesome in this world. Denny, thanks for joining the show.
It’s my pleasure. I appreciate you having me.
I haven't been to Philly in a little while. Although for lunch, I bought a Philly cheesesteak sandwich. It's homemade. It's this frozen Philly steak. I was supposed to do it and I got tied up, so my wife's like, “What do you need me to get for it?” I said, “It's provolone cheese that goes on top.” We did it right. She even got the buns. It was the most amazing meal that I've had in a while. I knew I was talking with you. It’s good to have you on the show. To help everyone understand who you are and where we come from if I was to go back to a young age like 5, 6, 7, your first memories as a kid, some people say, “I was into sports, or I wasn't.” What was your passion as a kid that let you up in the morning?
It was pretty much anything outside. I grew up in a neighborhood with a lot of other kids my age, so we were always outside doing something. I had a friend with a treehouse in his yard and we'd run around in there and we'd be playing any sport we could find, anything involving a ball. We had a concrete slab in my backyard that was in a square, so we used that almost like a baseball diamond and we played kickball. Anything we could do outside. We had a group of kids that would always be out and about doing something.
The times are changing, it feels like these days. There still must be places in America that do that. There's a park across the street. The Denver Broncos’ quarterback lives down the street, so occasionally, you'll see him out there throwing the ball with a few of the neighborhood kids. It doesn't seem like it used to be out on the streets of America these days.
For a lot of reasons, but I can remember as a kid, you'd go outside and it'd just be like, “Mom. I'll see you.” I'd be gone all day long. You'd be out and about and you'd hear somebody's dad whistle and the other one would yell. That's the signal they head home for dinner. We would be out running all over town for the entire day, but not anymore these days. Technology keeps some kids inside. It’s the way things are nowadays. You want to keep your kids close.
If you think about running around, playing with kids, picking up a ball, playing sports, is there a thread between what you did then and what your passion was to the kind of work that you do now? Can you tie those two things together at all?
I can. I got into a lot of sports growing up. My brother and I played soccer all the time. I played soccer from I was 5 or 6 years old when we would play pretty much spring, summer, and fall. I played up through high school. The funny thing is my brother was always the best. He's a gifted athlete. I was always the guy that would play whatever I can do to stay on the field. I loved playing. I learned to play every position on the field. One of the first jobs that I had that I enjoyed, I was telling the guy that story. Years later, he told me that's what stuck out was, that's the person I want coming in. Somebody will find a gap and fill it. As I've grown and then I had my own kids, I've always loved coaching. That's got me even into where I am now, helping to see folks grow and young folks who come into the business come into the work world and help them to achieve their goals and see them go out and do great things. That stuck with me throughout life early.
I assume that probably when you were younger, you would do that for other kids too, jump in and play any role that you want that needed to be played. “You need a first baseman? I'm here.”
I wasn't always the best athlete, but I found this in high school too. If you want to stay out there, do the things that nobody else wants to do. I'd be playing soccer. Everybody wants to be the glory guy, score all the goals. I'd go out there and I'd love to play defense and stop people, go for the loose balls, do all that sort of thing. That's what kept me on the field and play. For me, I didn't care if I scored goals or if I was the focal point of it. I just wanted to be on the field playing. I had a great time doing it. That's transferred into my career. It's looking around and finding what needs to be done and how do we do it.
In every company, there's always a lot of gaps that need to be filled. Everyone faces road bumps in your life. Sometimes, we look at them as mountains. If you're connected to God, he looks at them as tiny little speed bumps, but to us, they look like mountains. Are there any of those big hurdles that showed up for you? How did you go over it and around it? What was the way that you were able to get through something that was difficult in life?
There's a story I can tell you. It's part of what pushed me into the consulting world, in the contracting and setting up my own company to do that now. I had bounced around a little bit in work. I was out of work for a little while and then I came to work for an organization. They wanted me to fill out this new role and lead their product management effort. I had some challenging times. About a year and a half into it, they said, “Product management isn't our organization. We're going to scrap this whole thing.” I found myself out of work for about a year and a half. At this point in my life, I've got four kids, a mortgage, our family, and everything here. It's challenging when you're out of work that long and trying to find something else. It was tough. There were a lot of real struggles that went on. From a financial standpoint and in the physical world, I got help from family and friends. Some family helped. My church was a big help to me. Relying on and knowing that God is who He says He is, that He doesn't change, that was a big part of that.
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Coming out of that, it was pretty scary at the time because we probably could have lost everything we had if it wasn't for the help that I received from family and others. Eventually, as I was looking around to find anything, I saw something out there about this freelance marketplace. I said, “Why not? I'll try it.” I got into that and picked up the first contract. I've been contracting ever since. That was an accidental way that I got into what I wanted, but I'd always wanted to have my own business and fell into it that way, I'd like to think, but God directs all of this. When you're going through that, it's a scary and difficult time. Looking back, there's a lot of things that I can draw from and learn from that time period that are valuable to me now.
I can hear it in your voice. I can wear that and feel it. I've been close before where the business is going $200,000 a month and I've got people working for the business and then it drops to $20,000. You go, “Where am I going to go pull that out of? We're not funded. I'm not going to kill my IRA overnight.” That's a lot of dough we're talking about. I read something that said, “Most US citizens only have about $500 in emergency cash.” That was years ago. Now it's $400. You think about a year and a half. With everything that's gone on in the last several years, that's happened to a lot of people, and yet you got through it. When you have this third thing, your belief system, it's amazing what can happen to where the silver lining at the end of it is, “I've always wanted to do my own business. Look where I ended up.” That's pretty wild.
I never would have thought I'll go out of work and drain my bank accounts and lose everything, then eventually out of that, I’ll form of business. It's not the way I would have gone about it.
Sometimes that's what's required. That's how you're tested on your faith. My son had a burn accident in February of 2021. He was cooking on the stove at his apartment at college, his first year of college. The grease caught fire, he put it underwater, poof. Second, third-degree burns face and hands. You're like, “God, I trust you. You got this.” My prayer was, “I've never asked for a miracle in my whole life. Would you please give us a miracle?” The only way to describe it was a miracle. I know they say you're not supposed to test God. I was like, “I know. I apologize in advance for testing you here, but this is very important.” In the first week, things went from bad to worse and you're like, “Come on, God.” You leave the hospital every night during COVID, so there are only limited visiting hours. The last day before surgery was like, “What's going on?” We were voiceless. We were like, “Come on.” They wrap him up, they do the surgery. A week later, we come back, they'd start to take it off, and it’s like, “He's back.” It was magic. Money can come and go, but your kids and family make you prioritize things.
We had a similar experience where my oldest son was out with some friends and he's on his way home, slippery road, and lost control of his car and hit a tree. I get a phone ringing at 2:30 in the morning telling me, “I was on my way home.” I go out and meet him. You look at the car. I was amazed he was still alive in the area, standing on the side of the road. He broke his arms. As a parent, the other story I'm telling you, you can lose money on different things, but when you're faced with things like that, that sets your perspective.
When we got the call at the Red Robin restaurant, I'm out with my wife and we're there with my nephew, niece, and daughter. We got the call and we heard, “I've been in a car accident,” but that's not what he said. The thing that ran through my mind was, “At least he's talking to us on the phone.” It was a cooking accident. You're like, “What's a cooking accident?” It's amazing what the medical community can do these days. There's this treatment called RECELL where they take a tiny little piece of skin graft, mix it up in a spray can and spray it on instead of sewing it on. It took like you would not believe. His right hand is perfect. The left hand still in healing mode, but the face, which is probably the most important of the equation, was fully healed. That's where you're like, “If you can do that, then, God, you can do anything.” It puts your faith back on a level that's unstoppable. In your life at this stage, if you could accomplish something that would change everything for you, what would that be?
I started years ago. I went to work for a couple of fellows that I know. I still know them. I still go to church with them. They found a company. I always thought that's what I wanted to do. I've gotten to the point where I've created my own company here and I'm doing that, but I'm a company of one. What would be great for me, what I'd love is to be able to provide some product or service that folks do need and be able to build a company around that. I know that I'm filling a need, but being able to operate and run that company the way those guys did, because it was neat for me to see the way they went about some things and what they did. I learned a ton of things from those guys. They were tremendously successful. I don't know that I would necessarily even try to replicate that kind of success, but being able to build something like that where I can bring other people in.
It's interesting for me. It's great that I've got my own business. This is something that I've loved, but I always love working more as part of the team. As a kid, I always gravitated toward sports, knowing soccer, baseball, and places like that where you're working as a team. I always liked being a cog that was working with others to create and build something. Golf and tennis, for instance, nice sports and all that, but they weren't interesting to me because they were individual things. I always wanted to be part of the team. I would love to be able to build something like that where I could have a team going and provide a great product and see it do well.
What was the product or service that these two friends of yours developed?
There's a company out there called Frontline Education. Way back when it was called Frontline Data, worked for several name changes. I started with them. I was in mutual fund accounting at the time and these guys were building this software service. Originally, it was a service that automated the whole process when teachers were absent, they would get substitutes. I remember them telling me what they were doing. We had breakfast one morning and I looked at him. I didn't understand half of what he said. I don't know how I can help. That's where he said, “Don't worry about it. I'll teach you.” I joined them and did that. That company took off. If it’s not the top one, it’s one of the top service providers in K-12 education across North America. It was interesting to see it started with two clients, and now I don't even know how many thousands of clients.
I had a founder CEO on my other podcast called AI for Sales. We talked to sales, founders. I've done 100 episodes of that, roughly. This a funded startup from the Bay Area. I said, “What do you think is different about AI compared to the internet? Will it be more disruptive or less?” He said, “Way more.” The internet is just the baseline. That's the dial tone. All of the functions that you can collapse, years’ worth of work into minutes. It lets humans do things at a level that's more powerful than ever before and make different kinds of decisions than you would make in the past. His company was the security that sits on top of patient information and things that make it anonymous so that other tools can use it in their AI algorithms. It makes it usable data.
What I asked him was, “Where do you think AI is headed?” He said, “A lot of people are doing niche problem-solving. Someone who comes up with the operating system for AI, like Watson's trying to do and some of these others. Google has an algorithm. Microsoft has something.” One of the things I'm working on, we're building the app called 77 PRAY. It’s more of a communication protocol. How do you connect to your creator? Everybody has access to it, so it’s praying in the morning, act, read a Bible verse, and then pray at night and then get in alignment with what comes at you. It's like tuning into the Holy Spirit Channel, a new FM channel. Do you think that's a viable thing or have you seen anything like it out there? It got you through a year and a half of tough times. A lot of people could use something like that.
Find A Church: Sometimes, technology gets in the way of the simple message, and it really should just be the accompanying piece that lets you share the message.
About a year and a half there, I was with the American Bible Society. They're based right in Philadelphia. In fact, they opened up their Faith and Liberty Discovery Center. They have a whole interactive museum going on. I was there. When I joined them, there was such a need for this. They brought me in because they had all these products and they had all these different apps and they had different organizations or groups, departments inside and they all wanted to build their own. At least six of them were about 95% identical. That was part of the reason why I came in. A lot of it was built around having this community. It used to be in this country, you grew up and you lived in the same area, you never moved, you knew everyone around you. Our country has changed so much over the years. We are all over the place.
We’re moving around. People are moving and left and right. Sometimes it's hard to set down roots and get to know folks. That's where these relationships build. That's part of where building these relationships and some people say like, “I've been to four different churches everywhere I've been.” It becomes more superficial. Things like that become helpful, especially in a day and age where young people have grown up with technology as a major part of their life. I go to church. I haven't taken my actual paper Bible in years. I always have a tablet and I do it all on there, so are many others. Having something like that, there's a need for that. In fact, I spent some time trying to do some things similar to that. We had an app called JourneyMaker at American Bible. We couldn't come to a good agreement on how to go about that, but there's something out there. A lot of people have tried some things, but there's always an angle to it.
There’s no catch. There's no gimmick. It's just a path. I want to show you this. This came back. They gave me rev one, this is rev two. I'll take it from top to bottom. The image of the door there was originally what I was going to call the app Well House. Where the Well House came from is that my son and I were hiking in the mountains of Colorado and they have these well houses so that when you're driving your car into the mountains in the ‘50s and it overheats, they didn't have a proper radiator, so you had to drive into one of these things and fill it up with water so that it wouldn't overheat.
I sent her the image of that well house. There was a little steeple-looking thing on top, but you can get the picture and then the light behind it is like, “There's light behind the darkness.” I also did 75 Hard, which is a mental toughness app. You do 75 days of two workouts a day for 45 minutes. A gallon of water, read ten pages in a book, no alcohol for 75 days. By the end of that, you're in pretty good shape mentally and physically, but the missing gap was the spiritual piece. I came up with this and said, “Let's figure out a way to connect you to God's miracles. Pray, read a Bible verse, take action by inviting someone to the app." We think the viralness to this will be you click on the button to share and it will say, “Post to Facebook,” but the value is, pick someone in your contacts to text that says, “I've been thinking about you lately. I prayed for you. You ought to check out this app and be part of it.”
There are two magic pieces. First, to make sure you do it. If you do something 21 days in a row, it becomes a habit. When you want to crowdsource a prayer, when we put it out on LinkedIn, I had 20,000 people that were commenting and saying, “I'm praying for your son.” Knowing that gave me this confidence. The app is going to say, “Let's make sure we tell the person how many people have prayed for them.” Let's say you face a difficult decision. “I need to move. I'm looking for work.” You post that and this global community can come in and post Bible verses or share ideas. It's a pretty simplistic form of an app. I bring that up because you said you wanted to be part of something big. I feel like maybe that's why we were put on the call. You’ll never know.
Maybe some other time you and I can talk some more. I'd love to share with you some of the other things that I've done working with groups. There was a place called Aura. At one point, it was almost like a Facebook for prayer that didn't quite go because they overdid it. There's a lot of different things like that. Many people have tried to use technology to do this, but sometimes the technology gets in the way of the simple message. It should just be the accompanying piece that lets you share the message.
We talked about what would change everything. Similar question, which is, fast forward three years from now, we're back on episode round two and I say, “You were running your business for the last three years. How did the next three years go?” What would you say, “This was the most amazing three years Chad, this happened?” What would that look like?
I have four kids. They’re getting to the age now where they're getting older. It would be interesting for me. In the three years, a lot of it would have to be about what they're doing because I work with them to try to help them achieve what they're doing. I'd love to be able to say, “Three years ago, my son was in this spot and now he's doing this. My girls were doing these things and now they're doing these. This is what's going on in their lives.” For my wife and I, the things that we're doing. From a business perspective, I would love to be able to say, “These are the people that I've interacted with and the relationships I have.” One of the things for me, all the steps along the road in my life, there have been some times where there've been some people that are just a bit prickly that have caused problems.
I can tell you a couple of stories of some of the most miserable people I've ever met in my life. Everywhere that I've been, there's always been some relationships that I've developed. They've stuck with me over the years. I talked to a guy. I was going back several years ago. He was an entry-level accountant. Nobody wanted to use him on their team because he had a Criminal Justice Degree, not an Accounting Degree. He came on my team. Now he's heading up security for the London Stock Exchange. Stuff like that, I love to be able to say, “Here are the relationships that I've developed and the ones that I've added over the past years and the folks that I've gotten to know and how we've helped each other along the way.” Everything else is going to fade, but it's those relationships with people that you can carry with you.
That's something that's come out in a big way. When you're asked to stay at home and wear a mask, you realize how important all the connections are for you. For the longest time, the term social distancing was the term. I saw something where it said, “Physical distancing.” I said, “Why did they call it that to begin with?” It was a social distancing change in behavior. You recognize when the rubber band snaps back into place. I went through a drive-through, I was like, “This is refreshing. For the first time, nobody's wearing a mask on the other side.” Is it getting that way in the Philly area, too, yet?
It's getting close. There are two big resolutions on the questionnaire because our governor has declared emergencies and has kept them going for since the beginning of this thing and has pushed a lot of things. It's gotten to the point where people have decided they're no longer going to obey these things. Our legislature put some things out and then we have resolutions that pass that limited that. We're starting to see things open up a lot more now because of those things.
History is going to be an interesting look back in 100 years or 1,000 years. “What happened then?” Who knows where things go from here? If you went back to your younger self, late teens, maybe twenty, is there something you'd tap yourself on the shoulder and say, “Make sure you invest in Google.” Something that you would tell yourself.
Find A Church: Continue to chase perfection and have that integrity but realize you're not perfect and you're never going to attain perfection on this side of heaven.
I've thought about that. I had a tendency when I was younger to fixate on something and almost be like a dog with a bone with it. If there was an issue that I felt strongly about, I could almost be argumentative, especially when I was younger, and push it. I would tell myself to maybe ease up a little bit on some of that, to be patient with people. Just because you don't agree, it doesn't necessarily mean that things are wrong. One of the things I've learned over the years, in this day and age, it's difficult to disagree with someone without being told that you hate them or afraid of them. I would tell myself to try to be more patient with people. I tend to be a little bit of a perfectionist sometimes, I would say, “Chase perfection, but with the realization that you're never going to catch it." The idea is to continue to make that chase and have that integrity and go for it but realize that you're not perfect and you're never going to attain perfection this side of heaven. Go for it, try to be the best you can, but be patient and be understanding with other people around you. That would have helped me in my younger years to have that kind of advice.
As a founder a couple of times at different companies, I find myself as the guy who starts something from 0 and takes it to 75, 80. That's where I get. I can take it all the way because I get to the dog and bone also. Building a website, doing marketing something, or other sales stuff. There's a point where there are better people than me at the last mile. That's why we're built with unique fingerprints in our life, to be able to surround ourselves with people that can help us in those areas. The other thought experiment I like to do is the opposite of that.
I'll take you through the fast version of this. I did this in an hour exercise one time. You go outside, there’s this lawn out in front and there's this big, huge bird that you can get on, like joust when you were a kid. You jump on the bird and it takes you up into the clouds, safe, flies you twenty years into the future and then starts to take you down to where you are residing at that time in twenty years. You get off this bird, you go to the door, you knock and there you are, you get to meet yourself in twenty years. You take inventory of what's the person looks like, what's in the house. I'm going through a deep dive of all of this, then you're leaving and you say, “Do you have any advice you could tell me? You're my future self. Tell me what you could tell me now.” You get back and now you're right back here. I've done this multiple times.
I'll be watching a show with my wife and I'll go, “What would happen if I went there and came back?” There are things that you know in your unconscious mind that you're not acting on. If you can jump into the future, talk to your future self, and come back to now, you've got time to do whatever it is you want to do. Did anything come to mind when you went, like what did you see there, and what did your future self tell you if you had time to run through that briefly?
That's a challenge. When looking at the future self, what I would hope to find in a vision there is lots of families still around. My wife's family is close by my family. I grew up about two hours away from where I am now. All my family is there. I look ahead and I see because my dad is not much older than twenty years. I was born when he was still in college. They got started early on their family. I might look at my dad in twenty years. Sometimes I look and I say, “Here's my dad. What am I going to be doing in twenty years? Will I do like him?"
What I would hope to see there is someone who is continuing to focus and that a lot of that family is still around and working hard on different things but focusing on the family and friends around and making sure that you're spending time with them while you can. That's what they say sometimes. Nobody ever sits on her deathbed and says, “I wish I spent more time in the office.” I would hope that's what I would find there. I would consider that successful if I could.
Try that in a half-hour meditation session or something. Sometimes, you'll surprise yourself at what comes out. The last question is around faith. We've talked a little bit about it throughout. Some people learn about faith as a young kid. Some people learn about it in their 20s or 30s. What role does faith play in your life?
My parents were both first-generation Christians. No one else in their family was a believer. They both came to Christ as teenagers. I grew up going to church all the time from as early as I could remember and being involved in these things. I grew up in a conservative, fundamental Baptist church in South Jersey where there was a lot of knew what the rules were. I had all the answers to the questions. I can remember one time, a guy in high school says to me, “We're going to the movies tonight. You want to come?” I was like, “I'm not going.” “Why not?” “I don't do that.” He was like, “Why?” I remember sitting there thinking like, “I can't come up with a reason. I don't know why.” That was a trigger for me. I began to question everything like, “What else don't I know?” For me, that was a turning point to understand if I'm going to say that I'm a Christian, I should know why.
If I'm going to say that I believe this, I better be able to explain it to someone. I better be able to understand it and know it myself. Over the years, I've tried to do that. I've had ups and downs along the way. What I've tried to do is have faith, not necessarily have a part in my journey, but to have the journey just faith be everything around it. I don't want Sundays to be separate and special than another day in the sense that I'm a different person on Sunday than I am on Monday. I would try to be the same. I have a brother-in-law who spent more than twenty years as a missionary in Japan. I remember one time we were talking. He gave me a definition of integrity. He described integrity as being the same on the inside and the out. That's what I've tried to do. For me, that faith journey means I need to know, first of all. People say all the time, “Have faith.” They don't know there's got to be an object of what that faith is in.
If I know I'm going to sit down and the chair is not going to crumble under me, I have faith in the chair. It's not enough to just have faith. You've got to know what the object of your faith is. I've tried to understand who Jesus Christ is and what this faith is that I have and what Christianity is in general, what does it all means, and what do I believe in, how does that impacts my life. It needs to be the central point of who I am and what I do. Business and other things, that's how I pay the bills and do things. I try not to separate business life, from personal life, church life, and other things. For me, what I've tried to do with faith, is realize that it's not another lane that you step in and out of. It’s the center being of who you are and what you believe in.
I love that, the same on the inside and outside. That's something that we can all strive to be. It's like this church that we did at the retreat. I debated between what went on the back because I wanted to make sure to bring in people of all different faiths and religions, like everybody's welcome. I was like, “They're still welcome, but this is what I believe that the only way in the truth in life is that way.” It's my responsibility to make sure that's there. There's a guy who came by the house, Dr. Jim Wilder. He’s a Neurotheologist. He had missionaries as parents. He didn't believe early. He and a friend said, “Let's pray every day for a handful of days, compare notes. If it's the same message that we get, then we're going to believe.” They did it for twenty days in a row. It was almost word for word. God told them the same thing. They're like, “We do believe.” He studied it for his entire life. He said, “When you're making a choice, there are 614 simultaneous laws in the Old Testament that we must consider when making a choice.”
A human can't do that. It's above our pay grade. The only logical way to do it is, what would Jesus do? He also said, “If you were to make this decision right now that would optimize for the end of time,” not for my family, not for me, but for humanity, what would I do? When I've been wearing that cloak, I'm like, “The only logical choice for me is to play a much bigger game.” That means I need to shed playing a $1 game, a $100 game, a $100,000 game. We got to play in the millions. We're playing for people and eternity. It's like, “Let's go.” I feel like that's the new direction. I believe strongly that there is a future after this planet. I believe that there are angels that are guarding over me, or I wouldn't be here now. It's been pretty magical.
Find A Church: Christianity is based on facts, but there are emotions that come around as part of those facts.
There are so many things. God's word and you read through that. That's the authority that I have in my life. It's interesting because what I love about Christianity is it's based on facts. Many times, people focus on feelings. Feelings are nice and all that, but Christianity is based on facts, but there are emotions that come around as part of those facts when you realize who God is and what He did. It does draw an emotional response, but it's those emotions. For instance, there are days I don't feel forgiven, but I remind myself that the Bible says I am. The facts override feelings.
There is an emotional response to these things as well because we're humans. We're emotional beings. The way you described it is life is being a journey. If you've ever read Pilgrim's Progress from John Bunyan, he does a great job of creating Christian life as an allegory. It's a journey along his path that pilgrim is taking. He highlights all these things, but he describes it as a physical journey that's taking place. Faith, that's what kept him on the right path and kept him moving. It’s the faith and the path that he was on and knowing what he was doing and what he was believing. It's interesting.
Incredible conversation. Denny Bohs, I enjoyed getting to know you. Things don't happen by accident. I'm glad we got to dig deep here. Thanks for sharing your vulnerability and challenges. Anybody going through a year and a half without work is a hard hill to go over. You got to reach out to other people because your church can help you do it. Even if you don't go to a church, you knock on the door of a church. They will welcome you with open arms. If the one on the one corner doesn't, go to the next corner. That's why churches exist, to help people that are in need and to find the pathway to God. Thanks for joining the show. We'll be in touch. I'd love to get back on the calendar and see where this goes next.
I'm excited to see what happens with that app. That's a great idea. It looks good.
Be part of the first 77. There's a waitlist. I'm going to cut it off at 77 because I want the beta test group. I’d love you to be part of the first 77. We're thinking it's a $1 a month subscription with the intent to give away the money to people in need, but we don't know what the 501(c)(3) rules are. It may be free or donation-based. We'll see what happens and where God takes it.
That sounds good.
Thank you, Denny. Thank you, everybody. We'll catch you on the next episode.
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About Denny Bohs
Extensive experience with business analysis, change management, and problem solving. Passionate about quality and customer satisfaction. Record of improving efficiency, productivity, and profitability through automation and process improvement. Outstanding interpersonal, motivational, and presentation skills. Experienced with Agile Methodologies, writing user stories & use cases, identifying personas & gathering requirements, and interviewing the market. Results oriented leader with comprehensive business and technical background.
