How To Use Your God-Given Talents To Live Life To The Fullest With Susan Gygax

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How do you grow to your highest level possible? By using the talents God gave you to do the most good. The show’s guest today is Susan Gygax, founder of Spectacle Talent Partners. Susan shares with Chad Burmeister how she helps CEOs find the right talent to join them in their mission. Mismatching talents with missions causes businesses to fail. Using your God-given talents with integrity not only makes you successful in your business but also fulfilled in your life. Tune in!  

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How To Use Your God-Given Talents To Live Life To The Fullest With Susan Gygax

I am with Sue Gygax from Maryland by way of Connecticut. She calls herself a corporate dropout. I would say the same thing. I might use the term for myself, corporate rebel. I also can use the term corporate dropout. I love it. She is with Spectacle Talent Partners. She helps companies, a lot of entrepreneurs to find, hire, and onboard the right kind of talent. A lot of times, we think coming from corporations, we're looking for a certain talent and we mess it up. Sue, welcome to the show. Thanks for being here.

Thank you so much, Chad. I’m happy to be here. It’s great to be with you.

This is going to be fun. I got all that right. You've founded the business. How long have you been doing Spectacle Talent Partners?

For several years. Like a lot of people, these early days are still the formulation of this vision. I know from reading to some of your blogs, it's not uncommon that we start a business because there's a problem, we see that we have solved. We want to help other people solve it, which is a big, huge thing. How do we take that idea, put legs on it, and bring it to the market in a way that other people find valuable?

Do you remember you would put your forehead down on a bat, spin around in circles, then try to run a straight line? I don't know why we thought that was fun, but we did that. That was the early days of my business. I felt a little bit like trying to walk a straight line, feeling very unsteady. As I've listened to entrepreneurs and spoken with savvy, smart, and intelligent experts in their field, I've realized that the biggest need that these folks have is to understand how to attract the best-suited talent to join their mission. I've taken all of that experience and packaged it up that way.

Getting to the mission is part of the key so that they don't feel like they're running around the bat. Let's rewind the tape. I love to connect our audience to you. The best way I've found to do that is by asking the question about when you were a kid, I assume you grew up in Connecticut, what was your passion? What did you love to do? We get filtered by the world over the years. We have parents and teachers and all of a sudden were directed in the path. The best way to connect with you is, what did you do when you were a kid?

I was the girl who played outside. I played outside all the time, boys, girls, kickball. It didn't matter. I love sports. I did all of those things. That was my favorite thing to do. As I grew up, I still always played sports. I did cheerleading and acrobatics for ten plus years and all of those things. I found that I was naturally attracted to human resources because of my parents' business. That was an a-ha moment, much later in my life. My parents' business was very impactful in where I find myself now in terms of my mission and my vision for Spectacle Talent Partners. There's a piece of me that's competitive, which if you're going to be your recruiter, it's competitive. I don't compete with other recruiters, but I am competitive. There's a piece of it that's also fulfilling for me to see CEOs and entrepreneurs succeed.

It's interesting because my son is home over the summer. He's dragging me along to work out with them a couple of times a week. We have a facility right down the road. We find ourselves in the age bracket you're in where you live, keeping up with the Joneses, which means I'm this age, these people this age don't go to the gym four days a week or even two days a week. Why bother? People this age eat certain foods. All of it. You make this story up that you're living in that doesn't have to be the story that you're living in. It reminds me of those things quite often. It's an interesting wheel that we're sometimes finding ourselves on. You mentioned the connection between then and now, the competitive side into HR. What kind of business we’re your parents in that caused you to go down that HR path?

They own the diner. Breakfast and lunch primarily. We opened at 5:00 in the morning, six days a week. My dad, he would remember the time to make the donuts. He would get up at 3:00 in the morning, go down to the restaurant, and start prepping the day’s pastries, donuts, and all of the homemade soups, all of the things you think of when you think of a diner. There were five of us children. We all worked in the restaurant. Child labor laws maybe don’t apply to your children.

The personal identity of my parents and their business identity we’re much intertwined. That served me well now as I understand the sacrifices that they made, the work that they did, and how they approached building a successful business? They worked hard. They built a loyal community of customers. They served with integrity. They were passionate about what they delivered. In our case office, it was food. For anybody reading, regardless of what you're offering, you want to do that the best way that you know how. I grew up in a home that talked about all of these things all of the time. I understood the value of a human connection.

I started as an HR generalist. I didn't like it. I took a turn into talent acquisition, which is the opposite of what most people do. I realized that I love engaging with people and helping them do something that lights them up, and helping CEOs. The thing that lights me up is working alongside a CEO who feels stuck in their business as my parents did. My parents took one vacation that I can ever remember. That’s kids ran the restaurant. They were chained to their business in so many ways. If I knew then what I know now about talent attraction, how different our lives would have been?

That personal intertwined with business. It's taken me a long time to get to a point where that's acceptable to me. I've always lived, “Here's my business life, here's my personal life,” then I've brought them together. There are pros and cons to it, bringing those two lines together. The pros outweigh the cons, that's for sure. When you can show your personality on a sleeve, then your people are going to find you. The people who don't love you are going to go away and that's okay. It's important. I have a friend named Nick Cavuoto. He started a company called Tenure Brands. They go out and they interview the CEO on a call once a month for 60 minutes.

A podcast, they chunk it up into small 30 to 92 second clips that get posted to Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, all of their social every single day. Talk about putting yourself out there. Everything is now exposed. All my thoughts. I share them with the world then the video team goes out. I don't do any edits. I say, “Unfiltered go-to-market.” That's been amazing. I love that you learned that in a diner. It makes a perfect school. It's like norm on cheers.

My dad knew people's names. They knew his names. I'll tell you a story. I was sixteen, just got my driver's license. My parents' car pulled over the middle of town next post office on one side of the street, YMCA on the other side of the street, right there I am, lights flashing. I want to sink into the seat. I hand the gentlemen my driver's license, hand him the registration. He looks at the car registration. He goes, “You're Bob's daughter?” I said, “Yes, sir.” He said, “Hands up back to you. Slow down.”

God-Given Talents: Our biggest need is to understand how to attract the best-suited talent to join our mission.

God-Given Talents: Our biggest need is to understand how to attract the best-suited talent to join our mission.

Relationship. We need to get back to the relationship at this world. No doubt.

Prior to that, it's important to note my dad every day, my mom or whoever was working, we would go around town. Whatever pastries we left over, we gave it to the first responders. We gave it to different places within our town as a way to bless them and to say, “Thank you so much for who you are and what you do. We appreciate you because we're not going to sell them the next day. We're going to throw them away.” It was through that gesture over time because it had the name on my parent's diner on it.

We got to age sixteen now it sounds like. Everybody has speed bumps along the way. There's maybe something that you're comfortable sharing obviously, you don't have to share everything. Is there something that gut-punched you along the way that looking back now, you're like, “That sucked at the time, but now it was an important piece of my story?” Is there any of those that you're comfortable sharing?

Professionally, I took a big leap because I worked full-time. I was one of the few people. I was always an oddball. I always felt like a bit of an oddball in the church because I was one of the few moms who worked full time. There wasn't a place for that. It was an interesting dynamic. With that said, I always found myself in positions of being promoted, which was fantastic. I worked close to home as our children were growing. I was grateful for that. I never worked more than 15 to 20 minutes from home. As our children got a bit older, I had the opportunity to work at this high-growth multibillion-dollar international company. I didn't take the job at first. They came back to me and said, “We love you. We're going to do all these things.” I was working at the time at a high-growth entrepreneurial company from my ex company.

Long story short, I ended up taking the job. We tweak the job, made it bigger, whatever. It was a difficult situation with my direct supervisor based on their management style. That was a bit of a gut punch because I felt like I was taking a leap in a positive direction, financially, span of control, all of those things you think about in your corporate career. I realized quickly that this wasn't what I thought it was going to be. Dealing with that and how was I going to be a leader for the teams that I was guiding and building in a way that was authentic to me. That was hard.

I talked to someone, he called and he's leaving his company as SVP of sales. He's killed it. He grew the company. He made it from series A to B. They're getting the next round. They got $70 million. The average tenure of a VP of sales is 18 months and he's at 20. I'm like, “You've done it. You made it through the twenty months. You got all these options.” He's living in the moment and it feels like a reflection of himself. I'm like, “I worked with so many VPs. I've been that VP. They're looking for the person who can take it from $20 million to 100 million. You might've been that guy, but don't worry about it. There are ten other companies waiting for you.” That's probably what happened in this position. You end up going okay over time. Maybe it wasn't the right role. How did you get through that?

I'm a bulldog in a bad way sometimes. I bulldog my way through it. If I feel like I can't do it, I just try harder and I work harder and longer. Some of those things. Those are healthy things in a lot of ways, but any strength overused is a weakness. There are so many stories I could tell you. The one thing that I've now learned in the rearview mirror, I learned this from a gentleman that I admire greatly, his name is Myron Golden. He teaches all sorts of things about business.

One of the things that he talks about is, what happens to us happens for us. If we can frame those things in such a way that we're not defining them as negative or positive in the moment, because if we define it as a negative or a positive, we will make decisions and take action based on that criterion in our head. If we can decide that, even though it feels bad, that there is something in it for us, we can begin to overcome some of these challenges whether we find ourselves an entrepreneur, having a big role in a big company, or kicking it all to the curb and deciding to do our own thing.

That idea of what happens to us happen for us is coupled with, his was another one that I'm still learning, divorcing myself from the outcomes. We ingrain that in each other. My recruiters, myself, how fast can I hire somebody? How quickly and how desperately we needed somebody? We talked about identity in our business. There's a positive and a negative way to do that. The negative way is to tie our identity to the outcomes.

The ups and downs of business, which is inevitable, becomes our identity and behaviors become very toxic. Once we are able to divorce ourselves from those outcomes as the definition of if this is positive, or this is negative, we're free then to approach each and every day with a different perspective, looking at the things that are in front of us. That's the journey of entrepreneurship that at its best, in my opinion.

It reminds me of a book. There's a series. Golf is Not a Game of Perfect like Life is Not a Game of Perfect. Putting Out of Your Mind was another one in the series. In the Putting, there was one famous golfer. I can't remember who it was, but they would ask them, “When was the last time you missed a four-foot putt?” He's like, “I've never missed a four-foot putt.” They're like, “We saw the footage from last Saturday. You missed it.” He's like, “I don't recall.” He parked those outcomes that were below the line in a bucket of, “No, I just choose not to remember that.” Obviously, it can get you in trouble if you always burn all your cash and you go out of business every time, but it works. In this case, it’s a four-foot putt he's talking about. He's decided that, “I don't count that as a miss,” for whatever reason.

Earning and learning are two different things. We do things in business. We want to earn, but sometimes we do things in business and we learn. That's still earning.

You're earning while you're learning. Thinking about the last years, I like to look at Corporate America as driving a cruise ship and Entrepreneurial America is driving a speed boat. You can pivot as quickly as you can sneeze in this world. Based on what you're doing now, what gets you excited about the work you're doing now?

The simplest way to put that is, if there was something that I could do a million times and I would still want to do it a million times more, it’s interviews. I know that's crazy. I know most people. Nobody likes interviewing. As a candidate, nobody's like, “I get to do an interview today.” Nobody says that ever. The thing that I love to do is that I see each interview that I do on behalf of one of my clients as an opportunity in and of itself to get to know somebody.

God-Given Talents: Understanding how fulfillment and success live in harmony is part of the journey.

God-Given Talents: Understanding how fulfillment and success live in harmony is part of the journey.

It's a means to an end because there are only three possible outcomes to any interview. It's more so the thing that drives me to be able to make those personal connections so that people can understand how to bring their whole selves to work. That's the thing that I love to do. That's what drives a lot of what the work that I do with CEOs. I help them get clarity around what I call the essence of business, we could talk about that at some point, and then understand who it is that they need to hire.

The popular thing I hear now for entrepreneurs is, “We'll just hire the people for the thing that you're not good at, or the thing that you don't want to do.” Please don't make it a knee-jerk reaction and hire somebody because you think that's the thing, “You're supposed to do.” Come up with a plan based on your unique vision, mission, strategy, and offerings, and then let's understand what that person looks like from values, skills, and an offering point of view. It's a much different conversation. They're much more in control as supposed to feel like they're a passenger in their own process. They're driving the car at that point.

Lynn Butler is the best recruiting partner I've ever worked with. She brought me on to ON24. I was happy in my job that I was in. She knew the alignment between what the executives needed. They opened an office in Charlotte, but I was living in San Francisco for the last several years. They said, “We need to transplant someone there who brings the office energy and the know-how of San Francisco to Charlotte to up-level our game and started out on the right foot.”

It worked amazingly well. She didn't just recruit me but she was also with the company. She partnered with me on. “We're going to go across the street to UNC Charlotte. We're going to help get recruits to come in from there. We need to help them with what the vision looks like and go to the school.” She knew how to lay the groundwork better than anybody I've ever met. I know what you're talking about. It's rare. It's 1 in 100 to find someone like you. The other interesting story that connected for me as an entrepreneur, I'm doing the nonprofit side, which is called Living a Better Story. That's taking about half my time now. We met with the founder of FoodForOrphans.org. He's been doing it since 2007. He's fed 9 million meals to tens of thousands of people.

For $11 a month, you can sponsor a child in Africa. Usually, they come in and it's $50 a month. He's so efficient that for $0.35 a day, you can take away their hunger problems. It's magic. The person, Robert White, is part of our group, and Rich Blakeman. Robert, it turns out, has done trips to Sri Lanka, a lot of ribbon-cutting ceremonies. They opened these things for $7,000. They've got a new school, a kindergarten.

I hook those two up for lunch. They were going, “Are you kidding?” The other guy's about to retire. Gary is retiring from it, handing it over to the son-in-law. It was so fulfilling to know. Believe me, I want to do it all. I'm like, “This is fun. We can do this.” I've got all these creative ideas. I put him in the bullet and I said, “Robert, you know exactly what you're doing because you've been around the world. Let's relight that fire.” Pointed at Food for Orphans and now him and Richard are going to run it and I'm going to sit in the backseat.

That's the power of the human connection. We are created to be creative. That is the very first thing after God created time, space, and matter. He created people to be creative. One of the best ways we emulate our creator is creating stuff.

If you do a PI personality index, they call me a captain, which means there's a hook on my profile, which says I'm a risk-taker, but there's a point where I can't go all the way. The mavericks don't have the hook at the end of their profile. Those are Virgin Atlantic CEOs. They're like, “What do you mean there? I don't need an insurance policy. I can create and the world's going to take care of everything.” God's going to help take care of everything, too. It's interesting how we all have a unique individual fingerprint and we have to live into that fingerprint, what we're comfortable.

Isn't that interesting that our fingerprints are on our hands and our hands are what we use to create? That's what's unique.

I've got a fingerprint on my wall. It's Bible verses. It's fine print throughout. I saw it at a place in Winter Park. It's so cool because it just reminds you that it is individual and unique. Once you figure out what that lane is, it can be magical.

That fulfillment and success, fulfillment is different than success. Understanding how those two live in harmony is also part of the journey of being an entrepreneur.

I was walking with my son. We'd saw some enormous houses and ours is just fine. He goes, “Dad, I don't think I'd need something like that. What would you and mommy even do in a house like that?” I was like, “Yes.” Life doesn't matter how big your house is. I was like, “Brendan, we lived in a 6,200 square foot house in Charlotte.” He's like, “You probably paid a lot in air conditioning, too.” The next question is, you can fill in the words here, what would you like to accomplish that would change everything for you? Accomplish can be a loaded word sometimes. What would change everything for you and be like, “That's awesome?”

My lane is serving CEOs. Those entrepreneurs who traded in, in many cases, they're experts in their field. They have advanced degrees, they're successful. They have multi six-figure incomes, and now they want to do this other thing. What they've done, unfortunately, is they've traded in that full-time job for about a half dozen part-time jobs. They have yet to figure out how to sit in their seat as a CEO of their business. Helping them get clarity around what that means is a piece of it.

The bigger piece of that is finding the right people to join them on that journey and that mission. As many of those people that I can serve in the next three years, that would be amazing. Helping them understand the beauty of business because business is being attacked in some ways. To many of us have a conflict when it comes to being successful in business, and we think somehow it's bad or wrong. Businesses give, I don't think there's a give back because you didn't take anything away. If you earned with integrity, honesty, served while, and gave more than you asked for, the value exceeded the cost, you didn't take anything you gave. If you want to get more, keep doing it.

God-Given Talents: If you earned with integrity and served honestly, you gave more than what you asked for.

God-Given Talents: If you earned with integrity and served honestly, you gave more than what you asked for.

It's funny because when we first started the business, our only product was a $30,000 to $40,000 3-month product. It served us well and it served our clients well. I felt the value was at a certain level where it was about 60% of the time, there was value above that, and 40% it was below that. We didn't know until we did it. It sucked on the 30% or 40%, we’re like, “I wished it would have worked better.” Over the years you start to say, “What other product could I develop that's a $500 a month product or $1,000 instead of a $10,000?”

We've got this product now that's $500 and it gets 70% of the value that we used to deliver for $10,000 a month. That's fulfilling when you know that you can make money at a $500 skew and pack in so much value that you know you could be charging $2,000 to $3,000 a month for that skew, but you're still profitable. It grows and the stickiness factor is there, it's tuning those knobs to a point. We had a little bit of a tough Q1, that's okay. You tune the knobs and you're off to the races. It's a lot of fun.

Let's flip this one. You may have already read the question. Imagine you go outside and there’s this large bird sitting on your front lawn, it's so large that you can get on it and ride the bird. It takes you twenty years into the future. You're up in the clouds, but you're safe. You're looking around going, “The time's flying.” You come down and it takes you somewhere. It might take you to the same house you're at now or it might take you to somewhere totally else in the world. It doesn't matter where it takes you. In this world, twenty years from now, you could be on bird in Atlantic and Mars. You go out, you get on this thing, and then you go meet your future self. You knock on the door, the door opens, there you are. You shake your hand. You're like, “It's good to see you, Sue. How have you been?” You've taken inventory of what you see there, how you sound.

You go in, you sit down, and you look around. You're sitting on the couch or a table or whatever. You chit chat for ten minutes and then you finally wrap it up and you're leaving. You go and you say, “Before you go back to where you are now, let me give you one piece of advice.” You think, “What is that?” You come back, you get back on the bird, and you fly back to now. It's such a fun exercise because you can play it over and over because you can now think, “If I'm looking back, what would I tell myself right now?” In twenty years, you can do whatever it is you want. Did you notice anything in the room, or where was the house, and what did you tell yourself that you would tell yourself now?

Which house did I visit? That would be the first day. There's going to probably be more than one. When I looked around, it was not as much the stuff as much as it was the sensation or the feeling. By then, my children are married and have kids. My husband and I, we rescued another puppy. I’m not sure if he would be there or not be there. Those are the things, the sensations, and the feelings of that room, unknowing that I've been successful in the mission that is in my heart to be able to deliver to people well with integrity and build with honesty. My book would have been published. Having been able to help people in a bigger, broader way to live in a way that's both successful and fulfilling. The thing that I would tell myself is, “Do it before you feel ready.”

Take the leap of faith. Gary, when we sat down with them, we went to a diner. It was right next to the freeway. It's old school and it was awesome. We're sitting down, and when we drove back up, it's an hour and a half drive, we drove off roads, we didn't go on the freeway so we got to see all the countryside in Colorado. When I talked to the two guys in the car, I said, “I'll be fulfilled when I'm sitting in a chair like him.” If I would've done that ten years ago exercise, I'd be like, “It probably needs to be in a nice place.”

I'm like, “No, that guy, he's the cash. He flows cash in and flows it out to the place where it needs to go.” It's all on loan to us from God anyway. Why are we being so hoarding of it? He's a guy who lives the example to get 9 million people fed, the ripple in the water that he created. He is still creating and passing on to now generations, it's enormous. He has some stuff going on, he faced some health things and he still does.

Yet, he's still committed to the cause. You could see a picture of this guy and you'd be like, “That guy is committed to the cause.” Last question, we've touched on it a little bit. I like to ask this one because you never know what impact it has. What role does faith play in your journey? Some of us, when we're kids, we go to church and then we go off the path. I heard you talk a little bit about the church. What was your story related to faith and what does it mean in your life?

My faith journey and my business journey are intertwined because my personal and my business is intertwined. It doesn't mean there aren't healthy boundaries. That doesn't mean that you're out there with everything all the time. I get to decide what those parameters look like. God give us a good brain. My faith journey is taking more of a front seat as I dedicated myself to zeroing in what are those things I should be doing now. After spending my time for money, time for money is the model, instead, I want to be able to make sure that as I spend time, because we can only spend time once, money we could spend multiple times, that I'm using the time that I have in a way that does the most good. Thereby, that creates an opportunity once I've delivered value to have a profitable business. In my opinion, your identity, which for me is very much my identity as a daughter, sister, wife, mother, recruiting leader, all of those things, the things that we are now, entrepreneurs.

There's a grit and grace that happens in those moments when you start to think about those different identities. Faith is a huge part of the work that I do and the way that I view my business. I'm operating it in a way that is both successful and fulfilling the assignment that has been given to me because of my unique gifts and natural abilities, and the things that I've worked hard at learning and becoming good at. Putting all that together in a way that serves the people that I'm on this planet to serve.

If I were to summarize or add to the statement that you made, it's having faith that I'm living to the highest possible level of me. If you look at a graph and a curve and you say, “Here's what Sue could be doing, this is the talents that God gave Sue,” and how aligned are you with what the talents that you have. To me, the only way to get there is to continually ask. That's why we're launching 77Pray, this app. When you're a kid, it's like your parents come in and say, “Let's pray now, Sue.” You're like, “Okay,” but then you forget as a parent.

I'm close. I want to get to 77 days. I do a prayer in the morning and at night. I read one Bible verse, because it randomly picks a Bible verse and throws it in the app and you check the box. You go, “I did this.” There are four pieces. Pray in the morning, read a verse, act, which is clicked on a button, and text someone to invite them to participate in this journey. When you're doing that, I feel like that curve that's the possible becomes the probable because I'm like, “I don't know, God, am I on the right path now? I'm burning a little more cash than I usually do. Is this okay?”

It's like, “Trust me, stay the course,” or no, you get a jerk back every once in a while. Having that level of connectivity and tuning into the radio station, a lot of people don't believe the radio station exists. What I talked about on this show, it is amazing that time and time again, people are like, “No.” Like a guy, he goes, “Gary said.” I go, “What's the why behind these 9 million meals?” He was divorced and the wife took the five kids and that was a part of it. He goes, “One day, God talked to me. I'm not a guy that God talks to. Trust me. I don't get that. I've never understood it and one day he told me, ‘You need to do this.’” He was like, “What?” He goes, “I clearly heard it.” I moved forward from that. That gave him the kick in the pants that he needed. My whole thing is if that's true and if it randomly could tap you on the shoulder, then why would you not go lean into it and ask, what can it hurt?

It's in those stillness. Sometimes we have to peel back those layers. Getting still, someone like myself, I'm not good at being still. I go a lot and I like it. That's my more natural, comfortable state. When it says be still and know, the first part is I have to choose to be still and then I can know. The stillness is where a lot of things happen and that's been part of my journey with this entrepreneurship as well, is learning that being still is okay.

God-Given Talents: We have to choose to be still.

God-Given Talents: We have to choose to be still.

We're working with a company right now called JOYELY. They have The Chair of Joy and they bring it around and then they walk you through a five-minute exercise and it says, “Think of a time when you were very joyful.” It's like when you have your kids, when you're married. There are those moments in life where you're like, “That's easy.” It gives you endorphins or whatever it does in your brain, the chemicals. Her whole vision is, “If you do that three times a day for a minute, you sit there, be still, and think of a joyous moment.”

She calls it joy stacking. If you do three in the one minute, it’s like having three cups of coffee. I've practiced that a little. I'm almost thinking of putting it in the app like, “Let's have a joy moment,” but there are so many different, amazing ideas, creative things that people have done. What I want to start doing is putting in, “For this month, we're going to try this exercise, then we mix it up for people, so it's not the same four things that they do every day.”

That's powerful because it meets people where they are at that point in time.

This has been an amazing conversation. I feel like I need to hook you up with Lynn Butler because she always worked with executives from software and entrepreneurial companies. You and her would be two peas in a pod. I would do that after the call.

It’s always great to make a good connection.

If you're an entrepreneur, CEO, you're reading, and you have had a challenge finding the right people, then I highly encourage you to schedule a call with Sue. You'll get something out of that call. She obviously knows what she's doing. Sue, if people want to reach out to you, how would they get a hold of you?

Spectacle Talent Partners is my website. My number's right there, front and center. Give me a call. I don't try and hide. I know folks are busy and I make it easy for folks to find me. I'm also on LinkedIn, Susan Gygax. That's the best place to come and find me and I would love to have an opportunity to talk to CEOs who know that they need to find the best to people to join them on their mission.

I'm a fan for life. Sue, thanks for joining the show. Susan@SpectacleTalentPartners.com. I appreciate your time. Thank you, Susan. We'll catch you on the next episode.

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About Susan Gygax

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Susan, the Founder of STP,  has led talent acquisition teams at fast-paced entrepreneurial companies and multi-national companies.  She  has successfully led high volume hiring initiatives, created signature talent programs and hired senior executives using only her internal resources. 

Susan  is experienced in helping companies understand their existing structure, and address gaps in systems or processes.  And, she is skilled in bringing together current trends and practical innovations and customizing them to benefit a company’s current talent acquisition structure. 

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